<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37449367</id><updated>2011-04-21T11:08:38.936-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Kata Christon</title><subtitle type='html'>A Journal of Christian Truth</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kata-christon.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/37449367/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kata-christon.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>-sirhemlock@yahoo.com</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06038411639478940545</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_3L8UhU5sG2g/R24FJUzdA1I/AAAAAAAAAAU/kWCMvPRff3M/S220/sirhem.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37449367.post-4792209434212023295</id><published>2007-12-21T07:42:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-21T19:53:07.331-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Bart Ehrman's Lost Christianities: A Critique (Part 1)</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;©2007 by &lt;a href="mailto:sirhemlock@yahoo.com"&gt;sirhemlock@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt; all rights reserved&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[a note to readers: some of the most important comments in this essay are in the footnotes; it is highly recommended that each one be viewed]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;“I hear that divisions exist among you, and in part I believe it.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;–1 Corinthians 11:18&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;“What could be more diverse than this variegated phenomenon, Christianity in the modern world? In fact, there may be an answer: Christianity in the ancient world.”&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;–Bart Ehrman&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;“If in western &lt;/i&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;Asia Minor&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt; –the only area for which information is relevant, extensive, and early– no evidence can be found for a strong and early heretical element, that would be a considerable loss of support for a theory such as Bauer’s.”   &lt;/i&gt;–Thomas A. Robinson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Were ideas once considered heterodox and heretical just as “Christian” as Christian orthodoxy? Should we, enlightened by recent scholarship and ancient discoveries, call such groups Christian? Was the Christian canon the creative invention of power-hungry clerics eager to buttress institutional religion and marginalize diversity? Could smothered fires of dissent have been the original “orthodoxy?” Is the Christian history of the book of Acts merely “history written by the winners” to deceptively create a patently false appearance of apostolic harmony between Peter, James, and Paul (Acts 15) which never in reality existed? Were Peter and Paul instead at extreme and irreconcilable doctrinal odds with one another over basic issues? Bart D. Ehrman says yes to all in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Lost Christianities: the Battles for Scripture and Faiths We Never Knew&lt;/span&gt;  (NY: OUP, 2003). This work contains little that can be called new; it is a popular treatment which was conveniently available in mass quantity just in time for the expected &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Da Vinci Code&lt;/span&gt;  crowd. The subtitle is curious; Marcionism, Ebionitism, and Gnosticism hardly qualify as “faiths we never knew” (they have been known for centuries); these three are the primary so-called lost “Christianities” Ehrman has in mind. Neither is it still reasonable to refer to the Coptic Gnostic Nag Hammadi documents as “Scriptures we never knew.” This corpus was discovered half a century ago (in the late 1940’s); it is no more “unknown” than the first Apollo moon landing of the 1960’s. Ehrman’s bias show through plainly in this work, e.g. he refers to Gnostic writings as “precious systems of belief and practice” (ibid, p. 134), is openly hostile to traditional Christianity (p. 256), and often omits critical data.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;For many centuries, and many very good reasons Marcionism, Gnosticism, and Ebionitism have been considered Christian “parasites” rather than potential “lost hosts.” There was no Marcionism before Cerdo. No Gnosticism as such is known before the second century. Palestinian Jewish Christians for the most part were in agreement with and absorbed into early orthodoxy (Ehrman’s “proto-orthodoxy,&lt;span style="font-size:11;"&gt;” i.e.&lt;/span&gt; pre-fourth century orthodoxy, what the lay folk rightly think of as “authentic apostolic Christianity”). Ebionitism was a geographically isolated minority position which evolved from the Judaizers described in the New Testament who insisted Gentile Christians (who appeared to have been accepted already by God) had to become full-blown Jews to be saved; according to the New Testament this position was repudiated by Peter, James and Paul, i.e. all branches of early apostolic Christianity; this will be explored more fully below). The common content of the variegated streams of the earliest preaching of Christianity within just a few short years of the resurrection is also well known to NT scholarship; it is called the apostolic &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;kerygma&lt;/span&gt;; that its contours are to a significant degree historically demonstrable is affirmed by almost every &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;serious investigator.&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;[1] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt; C. H. Dodd was the first to insist contra R. Bultmann’s existential “without content” kerygma that the contours of the apostolic kerygma could be deduced from comparing primitive speeches in Acts with the pre-Pauline hymns and creed fragments. Kerygmatic development and diversity, and least of all the existence of marginal academic diversity, does not obviate the firm conclusion of a coherent if flexible substratum which varied according to need, purpose, presentation, etc (for a comprehensive introduction, cf. Colin Brown, “The Structure and Content of the Early Kerygma” in Colin Brown, ed, &lt;i style=""&gt;DNTT&lt;/i&gt;, vol. III, pp. 57-68&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;and Bruce, F. F., “The Speeches in Acts-Thirty Years After” in R. Banks, ed., &lt;i style=""&gt;Reconciliation and Hope: New Testament Essays on Atonement and Eschatology Presented to L. L. Morris&lt;/i&gt;, 53-68. By way of example, Ehrman’s mentor, Bruce Manning Metzger, probably one of the greatest New Testament scholars of the past century (who is quite unlike his student as we will see in a later section) maintained the following minimal common core could be found in the earliest sermons of Peter, Paul, and other early preachers: (1) The promises of God made in Old Testament days have now been fulfilled, and the Messiah has come: (2) He is Jesus of Nazareth who (a) went about doing good and executing mighty works by the power of God; (b) was crucified according to the purpose of God; (c) was raised by God from the dead; (d) is exalted by God and given the name ‘Lord’’ (e) will come again for judgment and the restoration of all things” (Metzger, Bruce, &lt;i style=""&gt;The New Testament: its Background, Growth, and Content&lt;/i&gt;), p. 177). Cf. E. L. Allen, 'The Lost Kerygma" &lt;i style=""&gt;NTS&lt;/i&gt; 3, 1956-57, 349-53; P. Althaus, &lt;i style=""&gt;The So-Called Kerygma and the Historical Jesus&lt;/i&gt;, 1959; W Baird, "What is the Kerygma? A Study of 1 Cor 15:3-8 and Gal1:11-17," &lt;u&gt;JBL&lt;/u&gt; 76, 1957, 181-91; W. Barclay, "A Comparison of Paul's Missionary Preaching and Preaching to the Church," in W. W. Gasque and R. P. Martin, eds., &lt;i style=""&gt;Apostolic History and the Gospel: Biblical and Historical Essays Presented to F. F. Bruce&lt;/i&gt;, 1970, 165-75; C. K Barrett, &lt;i style=""&gt;Biblical Problems and Biblical Preaching&lt;/i&gt; (Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1964); ]. C. Beker, &lt;i style=""&gt;Paul the Apostle: The Triumph of God in Life and Thought&lt;/i&gt;, 1980; F. F. Bruce&lt;i style=""&gt;, The Speeches in the Acts of the Apostles&lt;/i&gt;, 1942; &lt;i style=""&gt;The Acts of the Apostles&lt;/i&gt;, 1953;; and &lt;i style=""&gt;Paul and Jesus&lt;/i&gt;, 1977; R. Bultmann&lt;i style=""&gt;, Theology of the. New Testament&lt;/i&gt;, 1, 1952,33-183,306-14; H. Conze1mann, "The Address of Paul on the Areopagus", in L. E. Keck and J. L. Martyn, &lt;i style=""&gt;Studies in Luke-Acts: Essays Presented in Honor of Paul Schubert&lt;/i&gt;, 1968, 217-30; O. Cull­mann&lt;i style=""&gt;, The Earliest Christian Confessions&lt;/i&gt;, 1949; W. D. Davies, "Reflections on a Scandinavian Approach to 'The Gospel Tradition' ", in &lt;i style=""&gt;The Setting of the Sermon on the Mount&lt;/i&gt;, 1964,464-80; D. R. Carnegie, "The Kerygma in the Fourth Gospel", &lt;i style=""&gt;Vox Evangelica&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;7, 1971,39-74; C. H. Dodd, &lt;i style=""&gt;The Apostolic Preaching and Its Developments&lt;/i&gt;, 1936; J. D. G. Dunn, &lt;i style=""&gt;Unity and Diver­sity in the New Testament&lt;/i&gt;, 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; ed., 1990; C. F. Evans, "The Kerygma &lt;u&gt;JTS &lt;/u&gt;7,1956, 25-41; H. H. Farmer&lt;i style=""&gt;, The Servant of the Word&lt;/i&gt;, 1942; G. Friedrich, "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Khrux ktl&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;,” &lt;i style=""&gt;TDNT&lt;/i&gt; III.683-7I8; L. Goppelt, &lt;i style=""&gt;Theology of the New Testament &lt;/i&gt;(2 vols.,1982, 2.107­-18;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;J.I. H. MacDonald, &lt;i style=""&gt;Kerygma and Didache: The Articulation and Structure of the Earliest Christian Message,&lt;/i&gt;1980; O. Merk, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;khpussw ktl&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;,” &lt;i style=""&gt;EDNT&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;The Essential Nature of New Testament Preaching&lt;/i&gt;, 1960; R. H. Mounce, “Preaching, Kerygma,” in G. F. Hawthorne, Ralph P. Martin, Daniel G. Reid, eds., &lt;i style=""&gt;DPL&lt;/i&gt; 1993, pp. 735-737; B. Reicke, "A Synopsis of Early Christian Preaching," in &lt;i style=""&gt;The Root of the Vine&lt;/i&gt;, ed. A. Friedrichsen et al., 1953, 138-41; J. Reumann, &lt;i style=""&gt;Variety and Unity in New Testament Thought&lt;/i&gt;, 1991; G. N. Stanton, &lt;i style=""&gt;Jesus of Nazareth in New Testament Preaching&lt;/i&gt;, 1974; P. Stuhlmacher, ed., &lt;i style=""&gt;The Gospel and the Gospels&lt;/i&gt;, 1991, 149-72; H. G. Wood, "Didache, Keryg­ma and Euangelion," in A.J. B. Higgins, ed., &lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;New Testament Essays: Studies in Memory of T. W Manson&lt;/i&gt;, 1959, 306-14. 2.288-92; R. H. Mounce,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  ................................................&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;It would seem foolish to maintain as Ehrman does that positions such as Marcion’s which are logically incompatible with the primitive apostolic &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;kerygma&lt;/span&gt; have just as strong a claim to the label “Christianity” as early orthodoxy which is logically compatible with it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Christianity, according to Ehrman, is a much more flexible word than is commonly believed. For Ehrman Christianity includes Gnosticism, Docetism, polytheism (ibid, p. 2), Ebionitism (ibid, pp. 99ff.), Marcionism (ibid,&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;p. 103ff), Galatian Judaizers, Colossian angel worshippers, and the antinomian (lawless) libertines described in the epistle of James and the book of Revelation (ibid, p. 177). Even the false teachers castigated by Jude and 2 Peter are specifically called &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Christian&lt;/span&gt; by Ehrman, even though, as Ehrman admits, we don’t even know who they were or what they said (ibid). Here is the heart of Ehrman’s concept of what “Christian” means. It can mean anything, but actually means nothing at all. &lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;All these groups are described by Ehrman as a part of early &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Christian&lt;/span&gt; diversity. Why? “I cannot emphasize enough that all of these opponents in all of these communities identify themselves as followers of Christ… what would all these groups of Christians have to say for themselves?” (ibid, p. 177). Ehrman seems to believe that anyone claiming a label deserves the benefit of doubt about it merely because they claim it. On this assumption, if Humpty Dumpty claims to be the legitimate Queen of England, we should believe him. Of course this presupposes that we know something about who or what the real Queen of &lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;England&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; is supposed to be. If the antinomian (morally nihilistic) libertines cited by James and the book of Revelation claim to be Christians, who are we to deny it? (ibid, p.177). If Jewish mystics at &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Colossae&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; who worshipped angels claim the label “Christian,” who are we to deny they were really Christians? (ibid, p.177). &lt;u&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;If the reader will momentarily indulge the unmitigated audacity of the present author in using the phrase &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;authentic Christianity&lt;/span&gt; as if there might actually be such a thing, in point of fact, if we &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;don't&lt;/span&gt; deny antinomians and angel-worshippers were a part of authentic Christianity we are in fact no better “scholars” than Humpty Dumpty is the Queen of England, whether we teach at Chapel Hill or not. Why? Because even on the most radical historical critical assumptions we can find, it is quite undeniable that Jesus and his disciples were monotheistic Jews [2] &lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" title=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[2] &lt;span style=""&gt;cf. L. W. Hurtado, &lt;i style=""&gt;One God, One Lord: Early Christian Devotion and Ancient Jewish Monotheism &lt;/i&gt;(Philadelphia: Fortress, 1988). Virtually all modern scholars acknowledge that Jesus and his disciples were traditional Jews (Ehrman, op cit, p. 96), which in and of itself is a major paradigm shift in biblical scholarship since, after the defeat of Hitler, &lt;i style=""&gt;anti-Semitic&lt;/i&gt; German Biblical scholarship (it was often overtly so from the 19&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; to the mid 20th century) which sought vigorously to minimize the influence of Judaism upon Christianity and to maximize the influence of Hellenism (Indo-European/Aryan), has been largely eclipsed. Today denial of the essential Jewish character of Jesus and his disciples is virtually unheard of. Ideology has often co-opted historical-critical scholarship from its inception to the present day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; Monotheistic Jews do not worship angels. Angel worshippers, then, cannot legitimately figure in, as Ehrman calls it, “A Modern Assessment of Early Christian Diversity” (at least not a good one). Another inextricable feature of both the historical Jesus and Primitive Christian message within the first decade of Christianity (the kerygma) is the ubiquitous call for repentance (see Colin Brown, ed., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dictionary of New Testament Theology,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt; vol. 1, pp.353-362). Repentance is a turning away from sin and to God; antinomianism and libertinism are the precise opposite of this. If so, it would seem that no scholar worthy of the name could possibly affirm antinomianism and libertinism have any reasonable claim to be a part of “Early Christian Diversity,” yet that is precisely what Ehrman does affirm (op cit, p. 177). &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Ehrman uses “differing weights and measures” when assessing NT documents as Scripture than he applies to his so-called lost &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Scriptures&lt;/span&gt;. Foremost is the question of canon (&lt;span style="font-family:Symbol;"&gt;kanon&lt;/span&gt;: “rule,” here in the sense of “official list of writings”). Early Christians, he insists, had &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;no Scripture&lt;/span&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;because they had &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;no canon&lt;/span&gt; (ibid, p. 2-3); yet so-called lost Christians who had no canon had "&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;lots" of Scriptures!&lt;/span&gt; “&lt;i style=""&gt;What else might early Christians have been reading as Scripture? Lots of texts…&lt;/i&gt; (ibid, p. 28). Whereas Ehrman’s lost get the whole mine, early orthodoxy gets the shaft: &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Why did they not consult their Scriptures &lt;/span&gt;to see that there were not 365 gods… It is because there was no New Testament… &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;they had not yet been gathered into a widely recognized and authoritative canon of Scripture&lt;/span&gt;” (ibid, pp 2-3). On the early existence of Scripture Ehrman clearly wants to have it both ways (“lots”/”none”) &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;whenever it suits him.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Ehrman’s suggestion that New Testament documents were not widely recognized &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as scripture&lt;/span&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;before canonization is historically false, as every serious investigator knows. [3].&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[3] 2 Pet 3:15f. evidently counts the apostolic writings of Paul on a par with the OT Scriptures; ‘So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as they do the other Scriptures&lt;/span&gt;…” In 1 Tim 5:18, Deut 25:4 is cited first as ‘Scripture’, and there follows, connected only by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;kai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(“and”) a saying which is known as a saying of Jesus (Lk 10:7). Even if the second quotation were not meant to be included under the heading of Scripture, something new is nevertheless expressed in this connection by its place immediately after the citation. Here we may see the beginnings of a development, in the course of which the words of Jesus (“I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners” [Matt &lt;st1:time minute="13" hour="9"&gt;9:13&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;; Mk &lt;st1:time minute="17" hour="14"&gt;2:17&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;; Lk &lt;st1:time minute="32" hour="17"&gt;5:32&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;] cited in 2 Clem 2:4 as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;grafh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;“Scripture”&lt;/span&gt;), and then also the letters of Paul (2 Pet &lt;st1:time minute="16" hour="15"&gt;3:16&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;) became authoritative in their own right alongside the old holy writings. R. Mayer, “Scripture,” in Colin Brown, ed., &lt;u&gt;DNTT&lt;/u&gt;, vol. III p. 492. As Gottlob Schrenk notes, the Johannine writings make a clear claim to be writing sacred literature: “When quoting the OT, John almost always uses the introductory &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;gegrammenon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;, and in &lt;st1:time hour="20" minute="31"&gt;20:31&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;, when speaking of the aim of his own writing, i.e. to awaken faith, he can use a word which elsewhere he reserves for OT Scripture, namely &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;ge,graptai&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;. Indeed, in the previous verse (v. 30) we already find the expression: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;a] ouvk e;stin gegramme,na evn tw/| bibli,w| tou,tw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;This solemn statement is striking… there is no less solemn emphasis on the testimony of writing in 1 Jn (Cf. if the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;ina&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; statements in 1 Jn 1:4; 2:1; &lt;st1:time minute="13" hour="17"&gt;5:13&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;; and the repeated&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;grafw &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;egraya&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;).” Gottlob Schrenk, “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;gra,fw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;grafh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;gra,mma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Bwgrkl;font-size:85%;"  &gt;eggrafw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;” in Gerhard Kittel, ed., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;TDNT&lt;/span&gt;, vol. I, p.745. “According to Col 4:16 and 1 Thess 5:27, Christian writings were also read in services… &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;grafw &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;is used frequently, and is great importance, in the book of Revelation… He who would not fail to attain what is promised must, therefore, read (aloud) and hear this writing without adding or taking away anything (Rev 1:3; 22:18f.) As far as the letters to the seven churches are concerned, they are dictated to the visionary by the Son of man himself (&lt;st1:time minute="10" hour="13"&gt;Rev  1:10&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; ff.; chs. 2 and 3)…” (R. Mayer, op cit). Early in the apostolic period “the sayings of the Lord came to be given the same authority as the OT (cf. the Sermon on the Mount, also 1 Cor &lt;st1:time minute="10" hour="19"&gt;7:10&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;; &lt;st1:time minute="14" hour="9"&gt;9:14&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;; &lt;st1:time minute="23" hour="11"&gt;11:23&lt;/st1:time&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;)… the ‘I say unto you’ caused great changes in the whole concept of authority, especially in relation to the validity of Scripture” (Gottlob Schrenk, ibid, p. 757). “Clearly the words of Jesus are treasured [in the writings of the early apostolic fathers] as of supreme authority parallel to, and indeed exceeding the authority of the OT.” (D. A. Hagner, “Apostolic Fathers,” &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;DLNTD&lt;/span&gt;, p. 87. I. Howard Marshall has observed that an overt stylistic similarity between the book of Acts and the Septuagint Scriptures suggests Luke was self-consciously writing Scripture in the book of Acts (cf. also the “Scriptural” beginning of Mk 1:1 with the word &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt;Arce ( &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;alluding to Gen 1:1 (LXX&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:85%;"  &gt; ); &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;“It seems that Matthew has developed an intentional parallel to the five books of Moses” (Howard Clark. Kee, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What Can We Know About Jesus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;?&lt;/span&gt; (Cambridge University Press, 1990), p. 97, etc.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Full treatment of this subject is beyond the scope of this brief essay). From the early second century the Apostolic Fathers referred to NT documents as scripture (Poly Phil 12.1; 1 Clem 2.4; Barn 4.14; Justin Dial.Tryph 100-103); there was considerable discussion about the term &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;theopneustos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; (“God-breathed”; e.g. T. Flavinus Clemens Alexandrinus of &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Athens&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Stromata &lt;/span&gt;VII, 16, 101, 62&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century, AD; c.f. many other examples are found in Gottlob Schrenk, op cit, pp. 742-773). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Did the “lost ones” convene a council to officiate their books? We know they did not. Yet after insisting that no canon means no scripture, Ehrman spends hundreds of pages talking about lost &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Scriptures&lt;/span&gt;. Perhaps &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ehrman's book&lt;/span&gt; can serve the reader as the moment of official canonization for all those lost Scriptures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;We have established early recognition as Scripture of NT documents (footnote 3). Were they not yet widely recognized? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;“Statistical studies of the frequency of citation (relative to length) of early Christian writings demonstrates that from the second century onward, the Gospels, and the principal Pauline letters were cited with very high frequency, that the other books eventually included in the canon were much less often called into service, and that books ultimately excluded from the canon were used very little (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Stuhlhofer, Der Gebrauch der Bibel von Jesus bis Euseb: Eine statistisch Untersuchung zur Kanongeschichte&lt;/span&gt; (Wuppertal: Brockhaus, 1988)...  Thus the NT canon that finally took shape appears fairly to reflect which writings had in the earlier period consistently claimed the attention of the church and proven most useful in sustaining and nurturing the faith and life of the Christian communities. To this extent the canonization of early Christian writings did not so much confer authority on them as recognize or ratify an authority that they had long enjoyed, making regulative what had previously been customary. The catalogs of the fourth and fifth centuries are for the most part articulations of a consensus of usage that had arisen through the practices of the preceding centuries, and they are aimed to exclude rather than to include” (H. Gamble, “Canonical Formation in the New Testament” in Craig A. Evans and Stanley E. Porter, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dictionary of New Testament Background&lt;/span&gt; (2000), p. 192). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Seeing as most of the NT documents were &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;written&lt;/span&gt; from the middle to the very end of the first century, this clear evidence of broad second century usage seems pretty significant. While it is true that the New Testament documents “&lt;i style=""&gt;had not been gathered into a widely recognized and authoritative canon of Scripture&lt;/i&gt;” (ibid, p.3, emphasis mine), &lt;span style=""&gt;Ehrman’s implication that NT documents were not &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;widely recognized as authoritative Scripture, long before their canonization&lt;/span&gt; is in the final analysis pretty shoddy scholarship if not intellectually dishonest (the latter seems more probable to this author as Ehrman certainly seems to have had proper academic training). It is also a historical falsehood for Ehrman to imply in any way that NT documents “&lt;i style=""&gt;had not been gathered&lt;/i&gt;” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; (ibid, p. 3), &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;from the very start.&lt;/span&gt; [4]&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[4] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Paul himself ordered his letters &lt;i style=""&gt;circulated&lt;/i&gt; (Col 4:16; this assumes their relevance beyond initial recipients) and emphasized their divine authority (1 Cor 14:37-39; cf. 2 Thess 2:15, 3:14, etc).The Pauline letters were written in the mid first century&lt;i style=""&gt;; Pauline collections&lt;/i&gt; were almost certainly in existence by at least the late first century “for by the early second century Ignatius, Polycarp and the author of 2 Peter were all acquainted with multiple letters of Paul (&lt;i style=""&gt;DNTB&lt;/i&gt;, p. 185). Marcion’s edition of Paul’s writings appeared well after this, yet still early, circa 140 AD. From this time onward, Paul's letters circulated as a collection rather than singly. The Chester Beatty Papyri (p46), dating c. 200 AD is a very early collection, which contains Romans, Hebrews, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Ephesians, Galatians, Philippians, Colossians, and 1 and 2 Thessalonians (cf. Metzger, &lt;i style=""&gt;The Text of the New Testament&lt;/i&gt;). As H. Gamble observes, this demonstrates "the Pauline letters had been collected and were widely valued prior to Marcion, and the dual authority of 'the Lord and the apostles' was already widely established. Gnostic groups appear to have valued most of the same literature as Christians at large but brought to them different hermeneutical assumptions and methods and so warranted their systems at the level of interpretation… While each of these movements accentuated questions about the appropriate resources, authorities, and limits of Christian teaching, there is no good evidence that they had significant, much less decisive, consequences for the development of Christian Scriptures, for the much later definition of the canon of those Scriptures, or for the structure or content of the NT canon... The catalogs of the fourth and fifth centuries are for the most part articulations of a consensus of usage that had arisen through the practices of the preceding centuries, and they aimed to exclude rather than to include" (H. Gamble, “Canonical Formation in the NT” in Craig A. Evans and Stanley E. Porter, &lt;i style=""&gt;Dictionary of New Testament Background&lt;/i&gt; (2000), p. 192). The words of Jesus were also widely held as normative in the first century AD. As Ehrman’s former instructor noted, “Presumably, as each Gospel was competed,&lt;b style=""&gt; &lt;/b&gt;it was approved (cf. John 21:24, “we know that his testimony is true”) and used for public reading, first in the place of its composition, then copied and circulated to other churches. The collecting of Paul’s letters must have begun early, in the apostle’s lifetime. He himself prescribed (Col 4:16) that two churches interchange two of his letters (making copies , naturally); from that it was a natural step to their collecting copies of his other letters as well. The book of Acts doubtless shared the circulation and acceptance of Luke’s earlier volume, the third Gospel” (Bruce Manning Metzger, &lt;i style=""&gt;NTBGC,&lt;/i&gt; 274).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt; &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;To summarize, let us review Ehrman’s assertion one last time with these things in mind: &lt;i style=""&gt;“Why did they not consult their Scriptures to see that there were not 365 gods, or that the true God had created the world, or that Jesus had died? Why didn’t they just read the New Testament? It is because there was no New Testament. To be sure, the books that were eventually collected into the New Testament had been written by the early second century. But they had not yet been gathered into a widely recognized and authoritative canon of Scripture” &lt;/i&gt;(Ehrman, pp. 2-3). What on earth (or in heaven) would such Christians as these have been so willing to die for? To summarize our response to Ehrman’s inconceivably misleading assertion (which we trust has been sufficiently demonstrated): Early orthodox Christians &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;could&lt;/span&gt; have consulted their Scriptures to see that that God had created the world; they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;could&lt;/span&gt; have consulted their Scriptures to see that Jesus had died (if they indeed needed a book for this!); they &lt;u&gt;did&lt;/u&gt; hear and read New Testament documents they believed to be Scripture and they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;called&lt;/span&gt; them Scripture; such documents &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;had&lt;/span&gt; been gathered from the start, and they &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;were&lt;/span&gt; widely recognized from the start.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Early Christianity was not an absolute monolith –what movement ever was? And yet there was a broadly shared consensus [5],&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; as witnesses too the broadly and bravely shed blood of their martyrs. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[5] "There was for example Hegesippus (a name which is evidently a Greek disguise for Joseph), who flourished in the middle of the second century; he was a convert from Palestinian Judaism, and one of the first Christians to conceive the idea that the true faith could be identified by ascertaining the consensus of belief in all the apostolic churches. In pursuit of this quest, he traveled from &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Palestine&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; to &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Rome&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, questioning the churches which he visited on the way about the beliefs that they held, and recorded his findings in five books of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Memoirs&lt;/span&gt;. His conclusion was that ‘in each [Episcopal] succession and in each city the faith is just as the law and the prophets and the Lord proclaim it’ [Eusebius, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hist. Eccl&lt;/span&gt;., IV, 23.2]. His &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Memoirs,&lt;/span&gt; long since, unfortunately, lost, contained many interesting items of ecclesiastical tradition from Jerusalem and the other churches with which he became acquainted; he was, in fact, one of the first Christian writers of the post-apostolic age who tried to support his theological belief on the basis of history” (F. F. Bruce, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Spreading Flame&lt;/span&gt; (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1979), p. 273).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;A great deal of Christianity was still comprised of believers meeting in one another’s houses, and of local congregations who settled matters locally. They were widely scattered geographically and travel and communication were not as rapid as they are today. There was no internet, telephone, telegraph, or even a Pony Express. There was intermittent and serious political persecution. Still, a church literally exploded into world history which had a broad consensus on an amount of content that was in no way small. After the death of the apostles there was initially no universally recognized&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; institutional&lt;/span&gt; authority whose official pronouncements were recognized as binding upon all for quite some time, much less the kinds of universal pronouncements Ehrman alleges are significant by their absence. Such allegation is pure fantasy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;EHRMAN’S LOST SCRIPTURES&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The Scriptures Ehrman &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;tries&lt;/span&gt; to lose were at least &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;called&lt;/span&gt; Scripture by someone before (by millions and for millennia). Ehrman’s “lost Scriptures” include documents never known to have been called Scripture by anyone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;The present author has great admiration for Ehrman’s mentor [6],&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Bruce Manning Metzger of Princeton, who by any account must be numbered among the greatest New Testament scholars of the last century.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[6] Another of Ehrman’s books is dedicated to Metzger specifically as his mentor:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;“I have dedicated this book to my mentor and ‘Doctor Father’ Bruce M. Metzger, who taught me the field and continues to inspire my work” (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:85%;" &gt;Lost Scriptures, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;p. ix)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is highly instructive to note some pivotal contrasts between Ehrman and Metzger:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Ehrman on Apocryphal Gospels, Apocryphal Acts, etc.:&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;i style=""&gt;“…And there were other books written as well, with equally impressive pedigrees –other Gospels, Acts, Epistles, and Apocalypses claiming to be written by the earthly apostles of Jesus… Someone decided that four of these early Gospels, and no others, should be accepted as part of the canon –the collection of sacred books of Scripture. But how did they make their decisions? How can we be sure they were right?” And whatever happened to the other books…”&lt;/i&gt; (Ehrman, op cit, p. 3).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Metzger on Apocryphal Acts: &lt;/span&gt;“Of noncanonical Christian writings produced during the second and succeeding centuries, those known as apocryphal acts of the apostles (such as the Acts of Paul, the Acts of Peter, the Acts of John, the Acts of Thomas, and the Acts of Andrew) refer to persons and events in the apostolic church. It will be obvious, however, to anyone who reads these apocryphal acts that they are merely romanticized and legendary accounts which tell us far more about the interests and mentality of their unknown authors of the second and succeeding centuries than they do about the first century apostles whose deeds they purport to record” (Bruce Metzger, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The New Testament: Its Background, Growth, and Content, p. 169&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Metzger on Apocryphal Gospels: &lt;/span&gt;“The chief thing that the historian can say about these and similar stories is that the apocryphal gospels presuppose the existence of the four canonical Gospels. Such stories tell us more about the mentality of the unknown Christians whose active imagination drew them up than they do about Jesus himself. Sometimes the apocryphal gospels are referred to as “excluded books of the Bible.” Even a casual acquaintance, however, of the apocryphal gospels and their credentials will prove that no one excluded them from the Bible; they excluded themselves” (Metzger, ibid, p. 101). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;This is the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;diametric opposite&lt;/span&gt; of what Ehrman suggests! It is fascinating to see how far Ehrman’s portrayal of the “equally impressive pedigrees” of these documents has drifted from what his instructor taught on their credentials. Was Ehrman asleep in class? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;If Metzger were alone in such affirmations [7],&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;we might find Ehrman’s failure to give them fair hearing excusable. Such a procedure is more readily descriptive of propaganda than scholarship; cf. also Metzger, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;An Introduction to the Apocrypha&lt;/span&gt; and idem, “Literary Forgeries and Canonical Pseudepigrapha” in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Journal of Biblical Literature&lt;/span&gt;, 91 (1972).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[7] Metzger is representative of the majority assessment of the almost complete lack of worth of the Apocryphal Gospels and Apocryphal Acts as regards both the historicity of their contents and their credentials. As Howard Kee observes, “Apart from stimulating pious curiosity and imagination, these writings add nothing to our historical knowledge about Jesus. Their implicit claim is that they supplement our knowledge of Jesus, but in fact they present a significantly different picture of him than is compatible with earlier sources... In our search for knowledge about Jesus, we are led, therefore, to the primary sources: the Gospels of our New Testament” (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;What Can We Know About Jesus?&lt;/span&gt; (Cambridge University Press, 1990), pp. 38-39). For bibliographical references and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;texts cf. especially J. K. Elliot, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Apocryphal NT&lt;/span&gt; (Oxford: Clarendon, 1993); also cf. W. Schneemelcher, ed., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;New Testament Apocrypha&lt;/span&gt;  (1992); and James M. Robinson, ed., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Nag Hammadi Library in English&lt;/span&gt; (Leiden: E. J. Brill, 1977).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;      &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Ehrman claims &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ad nauseum&lt;/span&gt; that such lost books were “marginalized,” but it would be more accurate to say that Ehrman is trying to mainstream them against a mountain of historical evidence to the contrary while trying to marginalize or relativize the New Testament documents, which are considerably more reliable for historical information than the many later and increasingly fanciful apocryphal works which themselves depend on NT documents as sources.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;“When the New Testament was finally gathered together,”&lt;/i&gt; Ehrman tells us&lt;i style=""&gt;, “it included Acts, an account of the activities of the disciples after Jesus’ death. But there were other Acts written in the early years of the church; the Acts of Peter and of John, the Acts of Paul, the Acts of Paul’s female companion Thecla, and others. Why were these not included as parts of scripture?”&lt;/i&gt; We have already seen that most scholars think this question is easily and firmly answerable. What is more difficult to answer is why Ehrman camouflages the contours of scholarship that do not support his thesis. And why does he ask this question as if no one has made or could formulate a good answer to it when answers abound?! The apocryphal Acts cited above by Ehrman were composed in the late second century; many other apocryphal Acts were composed in subsequent centuries. The canonical book of Acts comes from the first century, when most of the persons described in it were still alive. Notice the phraseology Ehrman feeds his popular audience. &lt;i style=""&gt;“…there were other Acts written in the early years of the church.” &lt;/i&gt;In the “early years,” yes, but when? &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;A century or so after the events they depict&lt;/span&gt; for the apocryphal Acts seems to make very little difference to Ehrman in the above quotation, but it makes a world of difference to historians. &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The book of Acts has also been conclusively shown to have an extremely high degree of accuracy regarding many minute historical details [8];&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt; &lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;no one makes such claims for the late apocryphal Acts which were primarily written for entertainment and didactic purposes in the tradition of historical fiction [9]&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; well after the bodies of those whose stories they depict had turned to dust. It is interesting to note that Ehrman himself admits this later in his book: “It is probably safe to say that most of the Apocryphal Acts were written not to advance any particular theological agenda but for other reasons, for example, to provide entertaining tales of the heroes of the faith for some Christian light reading…” (Ehrman, p. 212). Evidently it did not occur to Ehrman that such considerations might explain his “puzzle” of why Christians did not admit these light reading materials into the canon; that is a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;real&lt;/span&gt; puzzle. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[8] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;See especially&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Martin Hengel, &lt;i style=""&gt;Acts and the History of Earliest Christianity &lt;/i&gt;(Philadelphia: Fortress Press 1979) and C. J. Hemer, &lt;i style=""&gt;The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History&lt;/i&gt;, ed., C. H. Gump (&lt;i style=""&gt;Wissenschaftliche Untersuchungen zum Neuen Testament &lt;/i&gt;49; Tubingen: J. C. B. Mohr [Paul Siebeck], 1989). “Luke’s accuracy extends to trivial details of the sort that a writer would be hardly likely to research specifically… The conclusion to be drawn is that if Luke is right about the details of the story he is likely also to be right about the main episodes” (I. H. Marshall&lt;i style=""&gt;, Acts &lt;/i&gt;(Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1984),&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;p. 37).&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn2"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;[9] Much of this material was both intended and received as entertaining and instructive but fictional accounts of the exploits of revered figures of Christianity.. Cf. R. J.Bauckham, “Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphal Writings” in Ralph P. Martin and Peter H. Davids, eds., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dictionary of the Later New Testament and its Developments&lt;/span&gt; (1997).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;      &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;If we are to judge significance by the amount of space Ehrman devotes to a “lost work,” Ehrman’s most important example of apocryphal Acts he thinks should have been canonized are the Acts of Paul and Thecla (to this collective work he devotes the majority of chapter 2). The author of this material was as a matter of fact known personally by his contemporaries and removed as a presbyter specifically for making the work appear as if it was the work the name of Paul (the account is found in Tertullian, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;On Baptism&lt;/span&gt; 17). In direct contradiction to Ehrman, there is absolutely nothing mysterious, puzzling, or sinister about the rejection by the early church of these so-called “lost scriptures.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The canonical book of Acts is of an entirely different genre than the later fictionalized accounts, in fact it was written in an earlier period before romance writing had been studied as an art. Ehrman’s bold statement that apocryphal Acts have “equally impressive pedigrees” (p. 3) to the canonical book of Acts is in the final analysis quite curious; it begs for some kind of explanation other than what is contained in his book. Whatever the explanation, it clearly has nothing to do with good scholarship. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;A Matter of Time&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;One basic reason for the inferiority of the documents Ehrman wants to mainstream against NT documents he wishes to marginalize is the simple matter of dating. Compare Ehrman’s own dates which include many of the lost books he wishes to view on an equal plain with NT documents to dates for NT documents given below:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;96AD: 1 Clement (Orthodox Christianity)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;100 AD: The Didache (Orthodox Christianity)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Epistle of Barnabas&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel According to the Hebrews (&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;Alexandria&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:country-region&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of the Nazarenes (Ebionite version of the Gospel of Matthew with chapters 1-2 omitted)) &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of the Ebionites (presupposes canonical Gospels which it conflates)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of the Egyptians (asceticism)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of Peter&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: The Preaching of Peter (apology contra paganism; preserved only in quotations)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of Thomas (presupposes canonical Gospels; recast in a Gnosticizing direction)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Infancy Gospel of Thomas (Jesus’ early years)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Papyrus Egerton 2: (presupposes canonical Gospels)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: 2 Clement (Orthodox Christianity)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Shepherd of Hermas (Orthodox Christianity)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Century: Epistle of the Apostles (anti-Gnostic)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Letter of Ptolemy to Flora (Gnostic)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of Truth (Gnostic/Nag Hammadi)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Secret Book of John (Gnostic/Nag Hammadi)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Proto-Gospel of James (concerning Mary)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Acts of Pilate (shows Pilate’s innocence)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Mid 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Apocalypse of Peter (orthodox work, in the tradition of Dante’s later work)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Late 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Acts of John&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Late 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Treatise on the Resurrection (Gnostic)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Late 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Letter to the Laodiceans (anti-Marcionite)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Late 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Hymn of the &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Pearl&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;First Thought in Three Forms (Gnostic; Emanational Pantheism)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;End 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Acts of Paul,/Acts of Thecla/ 3 Corinthians (bound together)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;End 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Acts of Peter&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Late 2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of the Savior (fragmentary Coptic work)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;2&lt;sup&gt;nd&lt;/sup&gt; Century: Gospel of Mary &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;Early 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Letter of Peter to James (Ebionite)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Pseudo-Clementine Literature (Ebionite)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Coptic Apocalypse of Peter (Gnostic)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Acts of Thomas&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Origin of the World (Gnostic)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Second Treatise of the Great Seth (Gnostic)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of Philip (Gnostic/ Nag Hammadi)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;4&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century: Correspondences of Paul and Seneca&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;4&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century: Apocalypse of Paul (presupposes Apocalypse of Peter)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;5&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century: Gospel of Nicodemus&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;5&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; Century: Pseudo Titus (asceticism; anti-sex)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;1958? 1758? 58? Secret Gospel of Mark (Morton Smith’s probable forgery; Jesus a homosexual magician).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Let us compare the sometimes surprising but always rigorous dating of NT documents by John A. T. Robinson (&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Redating the New Testament&lt;/span&gt; (Philadelphia: Westminster, 1976), p. 352):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;30 or 33 AD: Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;-40-64+: Gospel of John&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;45-60: Gospel of Mark&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;45-60+: Gospel of Matthew&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;47-8 AD James&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;50 AD: 1 Thessalonians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;50-1 AD: 2 Thessalonians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;55 AD: 1 Corinthians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;55 AD: 1 Timothy&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;56 AD: 2 Corinthians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;56 AD: Galatians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;57 AD: Romans&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;57 AD: Titus&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;-57-60+: Gospel of Luke&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;-57-62+: Acts&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;58: Philippians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;58: Philemon&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;58: Colossians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;58: Ephesians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;58: 2 Timothy&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;60-65: Epistles of John (1, 2, and 3 John)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;61-2: Jude&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;61-2: 2 Peter&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;65: 1 Peter&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;67: Hebrews&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;68-70: Revelation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The dates provided by W. G. Kummel, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;INT&lt;/span&gt; for NT documents may be considered fairly typical (more conservative than many German critics, more radical than many English-speaking scholars and critical conservative scholars):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;50-51: I and II Thessalonians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;53-6: Galatians, Philippians, I and II Corinthians, Romans&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;56-8: Colossians, Philemon&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;70: Mark&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;70-90: Luke&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;80-90: Acts, Hebrews&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;80-100: Matthew, Ephesians&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;90-5: I Peter, Revelation&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;90-100: John&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;90-110: 1-III John&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;-100: James&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;100: Jude&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;100+ : I and II Timothy, Titus&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;125-50: II Peter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Scholarship varies on many of the above dates which a careful investigation of the actual hard evidence, which is sometimes scanty, and/or ambiguous, allows. Yet &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Yet &lt;i style=""&gt;there is enough hard evidence that all scholars are faced with viable and limited ranges of dates rather than infinite possibilities.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The very latest dates which are possible in light of what firm evidence we have still places &lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;almost all New Testament documents squarely in the first century when many original disciples of Jesus, members of the family of Jesus, and the apostles were still alive. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;[10].&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;If most of the NT documents undeniably date from the first century, almost all of Ehrman’s lost books undeniably do not. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[10] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;L. C. A Alexander, "Chronol­ogy of Paul," &lt;i style=""&gt;Dictionary of Paul and His Letters, &lt;/i&gt;115-23; W. R. Armstrong and J. Finegan, "Chronology of the NT" &lt;i style=""&gt;ISBE&lt;/i&gt; 1:686-­93; E. J. Bickerman, &lt;i style=""&gt;Chronology of the Ancient World &lt;/i&gt;(Ithaca, NY: Cornell University Press, 1980); F. F. Bruce, &lt;i style=""&gt;The Acts of the Apostles: Greek Text with Introduction and Commentary&lt;/i&gt; (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1990); idem&lt;i style=""&gt;, New Testament History &lt;/i&gt;(Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1972); G. B. Caird, "Chronology of the NT," &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;IDB&lt;/span&gt; 1:599-607; K. P. Donfried, "Chronology: New Testament," ABD 1:1011-22; J. Finegan, &lt;i style=""&gt;Handbook of Biblical Chronology &lt;/i&gt;.(Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1964); H. W. Hoehner, "Chronology," DJG 118-22; R. Jewett, &lt;i style=""&gt;A Chronology of Paul's Life&lt;/i&gt; (Philadelphia: For­tress, 1979); P. L. Mair, “Chronology” in DLNT, pp. 184-193; G. Ogg&lt;i style=""&gt;, The Chronology of the Life_of Paul &lt;/i&gt;(London: Epworth, 1968); B. Reicke, &lt;i style=""&gt;The New Testament Era &lt;/i&gt;(Philadelphia: Fortress, 1968); R Riesner, &lt;i style=""&gt;Paul's Early Period: Chronology, Mission Strategy, Theology &lt;/i&gt;(Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1998); J. A. T. Robinson, &lt;i style=""&gt;Redating the New Testament &lt;/i&gt;(Philadelphia: Westminster, 1976); K M. Smallwood, &lt;i style=""&gt;The Jews Under Roman Rule &lt;/i&gt;(Leiden: Brill, 1976). Conservative critical scholarship places the span of the entire NT between AD 50-100 with the exception of II Peter; to the left, some practitioners of &lt;i style=""&gt;Redactionsgeschichte&lt;/i&gt; press some dates upwards according to the particular assumptions of development being advocated which may require more time than other scholars allow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn11" name="_ftnref11" title=""&gt;  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;If the shoe were on the other foot, if writings which affirm traditional Christianity were unknown until the second century, and if Gnostic and Marcionite literature were well-attested in the first century, and even attested in the first decades after the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus, we might fairly well suspect Ehrman would tell us this fact alone would prove traditional Christianity to be a secondary sham. Instead, it is the late Gnostic and Marcionite depictions of Christian history which are frequently and demonstrably secondary (not on grounds of dating alone, a matter to which we shall return), in spite of the wheelbarrows full of books currently in popular book stores which pontificate to the contrary, often for little more discernable reason than ignorance (e.g. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Holy Blood, Holy Grail&lt;/span&gt; et al) or (quite often) sheer ideological bias. [11].&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[11]Socio-political engineering in the guise of “objective” Biblical scholarship is patently obvious today, as (for example, if example of this is needed by anyone!) casual perusal of the American Academy of Religion/Society of Biblical Literature Abstracts from the last few decades should make quite plain. Of course this is nothing new.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn11" name="_ftnref11" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;Ehrman’s most important examples of “lost scripture” are each given their own chapter in his book. Chapter 1 is on the Gospel of Peter. Ehrman informs us that Serapion, appointed bishop of &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Antioch&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; about 199 AD “&lt;i style=""&gt;learned that the church in Rhossus used as its sacred text a Gospel allegedly written by Simon Peter… When Serapion read the Gospel of Peter for himself, he realized that it could be used in support of a docetic Christology… Serapion concluded that because the book was potentially heretical, it must not have been written by Peter – operating under the dubious assumption that if a text disagreed with the truth as he and his fellow proto-orthodox Christians saw it, then it could not possibly be apostolic&lt;/i&gt;” (Ehrman, op cit, p. 15f.). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;It is extremely difficult to understand why it would be a “dubious assumption” for anyone at anytime to reject something they believe to disagree with something else which they think on reasonable grounds to be true. Everyone does this. An epistemological criterion of coherence is perfectly rational and has formed a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;sine qua non&lt;/span&gt; for countless systems of thought ancient and modern, philosophical, scientific, religious, and irreligious. The New Testament itself emphasis truths passed down and entrusted (Rom 6:17; 1 Cor 11:2, 23; 15:3; cf. 1 Jn &lt;st1:time minute="22" hour="14"&gt;2:22&lt;/st1:time&gt;-24; 4:1-3; 2 Jn 7, etc.). There is nothing “dubious” or illogical per se about placing a value on continuity with trusted sources. Every thinking human being does this. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;From his 21&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; century ivory tower, Ehrman is quick to judge –rather harshly– &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Serapion's rationality&lt;/span&gt; for questioning a novelty which appeared at odds with everything else he knew. But in the patristic age the logic of continuity was considerably compelling –rationally– to not a few thoughtful minds. It is highly ethnocentric to proclaim as Ehrman does that a man such as Serapion was a mere uncritical fool. F. F. Bruce describes the early Christian epistemological milieu well:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 9pt 0.0001pt 0.25in; text-indent: 0.25in;"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 9pt 0.0001pt 0.25in; text-indent: 0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;“The doctrine maintained in Irenaeus’s day in a church of apostolic foundation might be safely assumed to be identical with what the founder-apostles had taught, further guaranteed as it was by the unbroken succession of bishops, unless it could be proved that at some point a change had been introduced – and the burden of proof rested on those who claimed that a change had in fact been introduced… Probably, too the first few names in Irenaeus’s succession-list represent colleagues on a board of presbyter-bishops rather than successive monarchial bishops. But it was a fact of experience that the faith held in &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Rome&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; was held by the other apostolic churches – &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Antioch&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;, &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ephesus&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;, Thessalonica, &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Corinth&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;, and the rest. The same faith was held in Jerusalem – which, in view of its new and Gentile foundation after AD 135 could not now strictly be called an apostolic church, though it no doubt served itself heir to the primitive church of that city – and in Alexandria, where the Christian establishment was orthodox by Irenaeus’s time, whatever its doctrine may have been in earlier days… No matter how many languages the faith might be taught, ‘yet the force of the tradition is one and the same. For the churches planted in &lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Germany&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; have not believed or handed down anything different, nor yet the churches among the Iberians or the Celts, nor those in the east, nor yet in &lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt; and &lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Libya&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;, nor those established in the center of the world’ (&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;AH&lt;/span&gt; iii. 4.1; iv.53.1).”[12]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[12] F. . F. Bruce, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tradition, Old and New&lt;/span&gt; (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1970), p. 113.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 9pt 0.0001pt 0.25in; text-indent: 0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn12" name="_ftnref12" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Ehrman’s idea that Serapion was an uncritical dolt is quite unconvincing. But there are bigger problems than this with Ehrman’s handling of Serapion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;            &lt;/span&gt;Serapion recorded his discovery in a book, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Concerning the So-called Gospel of Peter.&lt;/span&gt; The original work is lost, but quotations are preserved in Eusebius’ &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Ecclesiastical History&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;(6.12). Ehrman tells us that Serapion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; "&lt;i style=""&gt;learned that the church in Rhossus used as its sacred text a Gospel allegedly written by Simon Peter…”&lt;/i&gt; (Ehrman, p. 15). But Eusebius’ account says nothing of the kind about the “church in Rhossus,” but only, and specifically, that "&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;some&lt;/span&gt; in the church at Rhossus” had come to accept some Docetic views “by this work.” It is hardly self evident from this as Ehrman’s account suggests that the church as a whole at Rhossus, or even a majority in it, or even a group of significant size in it used the Gospel of Peter as a sacred text.  (6.12). Ehrman tells us that Serapion “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Neither does Ehrman get it right on why Serapion rejected the Gospel of Peter. According to Ehrman, Serapion rejected the Gospel of Peter “under the dubious assumption that if [the] text disagreed with the truth as he and his fellow proto orthodox Christians saw it, then it could not possibly be apostolic” (ibid, p. 13). But Serapion’s criterion was not theology, but experience. “For our part, brethren, we receive both Peter and the other apostles as Christ, but the writings which falsely bear their names [Gk. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;pseudepigrapha&lt;/span&gt;] we reject, as men of experience, knowing that such were not handed down to us” (&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;H.E. &lt;/span&gt;6.12.3). As John A. T. Robinson observes, “Though the motive of his condemnation of it was the Docetic heresy that he heard it was spreading, the criterion of his judgment , to which he brought the expertise in these matters that he claimed, was its genuineness as the work of the apostle” (J. A. T. Robinson, op cit, p. 188). Serapion’s point –hardly dubious– was essentially this:&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;if Peter wrote this Gospel, why is it that no one who is keen about such matters has ever heard of the thing before? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 9pt; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;We must pause here to recall Ehrman’s &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;insistence&lt;/span&gt; that the mere fact that NT documents were read in the early churches and/or quoted by the apostolic fathers does not establish &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;their&lt;/span&gt; nature as sacred texts. Yet Ehrman informs us the mere fact that the Gospel of Peter was read in a church is sufficient grounds for inferring &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;it&lt;/span&gt; was a “sacred text.” This is special pleading, not scholarship. Ehrman’s appeal to Serapion ultimately fails to demonstrate that the Gospel of Peter was widely accepted even at Rhossus, much less in early Christianity as a whole. But Ehrman has provided us with another argument for this Gospel; for this we must turn our sights to ancient Egypt. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;A Matter of Geography, Climate, Local Culture, and Evidence&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Egypt’s dry climate has bequeathed to us many ancient documents which environments even slightly more humid would have long since destroyed. If we merely count physical fragments which survived the ravages of time, an Egyptian bias is inevitable. Ehrman appeals to thirty Gospel fragments discovered mostly in Egypt from the second and third centuries. One contains text from Mark, five contain unidentified texts, three are from the Gospel of Thomas, three from the Gospel of Peter, and two from a Gospel of Mary Magdalene. After relating this data, Ehrman asks us “&lt;i style=""&gt;Which Gospel was more popular in early Christianity, Mark or Peter? It is rather hard to say. But if the material remains are any gauge, one would have to give the palm to Peter, with three times as many surviving manuscript remains as Mark&lt;/i&gt;” (Ehrman, p. 23). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;The manuscripts Ehrman appeals to here run as late as the third century (ibid, pp. 22ff.); his use of “early” is the first ambiguity. The manuscript fragments Ehrman cites, found “principally in the sands of Egypt” (ibid, p.22) are indeed &lt;u&gt;not &lt;/u&gt;a reliable gauge gospel popularity in early Christianity in general as Ehrman suggests. As a matter of fact, we know little about early Christianity in Egypt, but we have mountains of data pertaining to early Christianity in other areas (Robinson, Thomas A. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Bauer Thesis Examined: The Geography of Heresy in the Early Christian Church, &lt;/span&gt; (Lewiston: Mellen Press, 1988), especially in &lt;st1:place&gt;Asia Minor&lt;/st1:place&gt;; it is absurd to close our eyes to all this and go with Ehrman to &lt;st1:country-region&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; alone to decide “which Gospel was more popular in early Christianity.” Ehrman is trying to wag the dog with its tail. What we know from those other areas overwhelmingly indicates there was no contest whatsoever in popularity between the canonical Gospels and their later apocryphal imitators; to the contrary! (Stuhlhofer, op cit). Extrapolating the nature of early Christianity in general from a marginal region for which we have meager data is illegitimate. As Thomas A. Robinson observes, Egypt and Edessa in particular were “not, even on a fairly generous reading of the evidence, primary centers of the early church, and even if they had been, early literature from these areas is too scarce to provide anything more than muted testimony to the character of the earliest Christianity there” (Robinson, Thomas A.,  &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Geography of Heresy,&lt;/span&gt; p. 42). The writings of Clement of Alexandria show conclusively that Ehrman’s hidden presumption that the few physically surviving manuscript fragments of early Egypt are representative of even all the materials which were available to early &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Egyptian&lt;/span&gt; Christianity is absolutely false (cf. Robinson, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Geography of Heresy&lt;/span&gt;, p. 62). Further, extrapolating from sample to population is illegitimate if the sample is known on independent grounds to be non-representative. Egypt is known to deviate significantly from the statistical norm in terms of its ideas; this alone excludes taking it as representative of Christian ideas generally (the very idea is an oxymoron). &lt;span style=""&gt;Egypt is also known to have been a special case where there was much more anti-Semitism than in many other areas [13],&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and much more syncretism and diversity of doctrine (especially before the establishment of a catechetical school by Pantaenus in Alexandria c. 170 AD), much of which is as likely (or more so) to be a function of the particularities of the culture there as to the nature of the Christianity that was brought there (it is not only Christianity which was considerably transmuted by Alexandrian intellectuals, e.g. Philo’s transformation of Judaism, etc.; that similar epistemological transformations account for gnosticism in particular will be examined further below).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[13] In AD 70, some 50,000 Jews were killed in Alexandria under Trajan. Alexandrian Anti-Semitism did not begin in AD 66-70, and it ran very deep there. Some illustrative highlights (selective): Aulus Avillius Flaccus, appointed prefect of Egypt in Alexandria circa 33 AD, adopted an anti-Jewish policy in exchange for the promise by leaders of the Alexandrian anti-Semitic movement to praise him to Roman Emperor Gaius if he would adopt their policies. In August of 38 AD, King Agrippa visited Alexandria en route to his new kingdom in Palestine. Alexandrian Jews then sought to lodge a complaint with Agrippa against Flaccus' anti-Jewish policies while anti-Semites staged a riotous demonstration which publicly ridiculed Agrippa, with Flaccus' approval, in spite of the danger of this extreme insult of the close friend of the Emperor. Flaccus proclaimed Jews as aliens with no civil rights. Their property was confiscated, Synagogues were looted and burned, and they were forced to reside in one section of the city. Images of Caligula were installed in Synagogues, the removal of which would be interpreted as treason against the Emperor. In September of the same year, during the Feast of Tabernacles, Flaccus was arrested by a special delegation of Roman soldiers and brought to Rome after which he was banished to the Aegean islands, where he was later executed. C. Vitrasius Pollo, then installed as the new prefect of Egypt, sent two delegations, one Greek, one Jewish, to testify before the Emperor concerning the Alexandrian riots which led to the deposition of Flaccus. Just a few years later is a Letter from Emperor Claudius to the Prefect of Egypt (Josephus &lt;u&gt;Ant&lt;/u&gt; 19.5.2 and papyrus &lt;u&gt;CPJ&lt;/u&gt; 153) which states “It is forbidden to the Jews to attract or invite other Jews to come [to Alexandria] by water from Syria or the rest of Egypt, for that would give me the gravest suspicion about them, as fomenting a sort of illness common to the whole universe.” (this allusion may, probably, refer to Jewish political-Messianic movements; some see a possible early reference to Christianity, but this is uncertain).&lt;/span&gt; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Extreme anti-Semitic feeling in Alexandria would have made it more difficult for Christians to attract Gentile converts to their Jewish Messiah. A Jewish Messiah in largely anti-Semitic Alexandria would generally be about as compellingly received as Krishna in modern day Tehran (T. Robinson observes the anti-Semitic bent of gnostic thought may have made it more palatable in such an environment). This certainly does not mean there was not a strong orthodox Christian presence in early Egypt, [14],&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; but (as Ehrman says, but then proceeds to ignore) “it is rather hard to say.” There simply isn’t enough hard evidence in Egypt one way or another to reconstruct the nature of early Christianity even there [15]&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;(Robinson, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Geography of Heresy,&lt;/span&gt; p. 42), much less (from Egyptian data) elsewhere. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[14] C. f. Eusebius’ mention that Mark undertook a mission to Egypt, founding a church at Alexandria, the leadership of which was given to Annianus in AD 62 (&lt;u&gt;HE&lt;/u&gt; II, 15); this cannot be presently verified. Many scholars believe the book of Hebrews was probably composed in Alexandria and reflects early orthodoxy there; there is strong evidence for this, but unlike Ehrman we do not confuse every possible hypothesis with proof. Above all, the tragic events discussed in footnote thirteen must also be taken into account for the experience of any Christians living in the region.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn2"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[15] The obscurity of the early period of Christianity in Egypt is universally recognized, e.g. A. Pearson and James E. Goehring, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Roots of Egyptian Christianity&lt;/span&gt; (Philadelphia: Fortress, 1986) and Bowman, Alan L., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Egypt After the Pharaohs: 332 BC-AD 642&lt;/span&gt; (Berkley: University of California Press, 1986), pp 122-129; Koester also affirmed this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;There is a vast quantity other evidence besides extant documents from Egypt which simply &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;must&lt;/span&gt; be taken into consideration to adequately gauge to the “popularity” of the various Gospels in early &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Christianity as a whole.&lt;/span&gt; If we were to consider as Ehrman does in his Egyptian manuscript calculation, material into the third century, but include citations of the Gospels in patristic literature, lectionaries, versions, inclusion in the various trajectories of the textual transmission of the New Testament, and perhaps throw in a bit of demographic and geographical evidence from principal areas of early Christianity where the data is the most abundant (just for starters), a considerably different picture than Ehrman’s would quickly and easily emerge [16]&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (deconstructionists notwithstanding!). It is not that Ehrman is unaware of this data; he is an incessant special pleader. He simply ignores the relevant evidence whenever it is convenient. Given the accidental nature of manuscript discoveries alone the assumption that a few manuscripts are a reliable index of popularity of a document or documents throughout one single entire region is bad enough (Robinson, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Geography of Heresy,&lt;/span&gt; p. 61; cf. B. M. Metzger, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Early Versions of the New Testament&lt;/span&gt; (Oxford: Clarendon, 1977); cautions re. Egyptian mss. on pp. 101-103); the idea that it even might reliably tell us what was or wasn’t popular in early Christianity as a whole is virtually unthinkable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;hr style="height: 3px;font-size:78%;" align="left"  width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=37449367#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;[16]We should also recall that the later heterodox Gospels themselves tacitly attest the popularity of the earlier NT Gospels, for they used them as sources. Ehrman is aware of such data; his failure to bring it to bear on the question of “Gospel popularity in early Christianity” merely underscores his ever-present, almost cartoonish myopia&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;PART TWO, WHICH IS MOSTLY COMPLETE, IS SCHEDULED FOR PUBLICATION AT A LATER TIME. 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But his wife, from behind him, looked back; and she became a pillar of salt.Now Abraham arose early in the morning and went to the place where he had stood before the Lord; and he looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the valley, and he saw, and behold, the smoke of the land ascended like the smoke of a furnace. Thus it came about, when God destroyed the cities of the valley, that God remembered Abraham, and sent &lt;st1:place&gt;Lot&lt;/st1:place&gt; out of the midst of the overthrow, when He overthrew the cities in which &lt;st1:place&gt;Lot&lt;/st1:place&gt; lived.” &lt;/i&gt;        -Genesis &lt;st1:time hour="19" minute="24"&gt;19:24&lt;/st1:time&gt;-29&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/sirhemlock/GenSodomEbla1.png" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fig. 1&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; Archives&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;I. The &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; Archives.&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;A. Discovery. The Royal Archives of Ebla, discovered at Tell Mardikh in &lt;st1:place&gt;Northern Syria&lt;/st1:place&gt; 1976 date to the 24th century BC and afterwards. Initially 17,500 tablets were found; one of them spoke of another library, which was also found. The archives cover a considerable span of time ending just prior to the Patriarchal age. Considerable light was thrown on the earliest portions of the Bible from these archives, including deities also named in the Bible, personal names found also in the Bible, an “early stage” creation account, and place names found in the earliest portions of the Bible. &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;B. Deities at &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;. Many of the deities mentioned at &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; are also mentioned in the Bible: “Approximately five hundred deities are named in the &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; tablets… The main god in &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; was Dagan (grain), spelled Dagon in the OT… The Canaanite gods Baal and Haddad, variant names of the storm, were worshipped at Ebla, as were Ishtar (spelled Asherah), Kamish, Malik, Kemosh, and Molek, all mentioned in the OT. Some personal names end with il, which in the OT equals el (God). In some instances il is displaced with ia, which Pettinato equates with Yah (the first part of Yahweh), an equation denied by others… Pettinato’s claim that &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; appear on several tablets is a matter of controversy.” (G. H. Livingston, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Pentateuch in its Cultural Context&lt;/span&gt;, p. 295).&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;C. Biblical Personal Names at &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;. Many of the names of persons early in Genesis are found in the &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; archives as well. "Over ten thousand personal names are said to be recorded on the &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; tablets, of which several thousand have been published. Names that are equivalent to those of some persons mentioned in the Old Testament are Adam, Eve, Jubal, Noah, Abram, Ishmael, Hagar, Keturah, Bilhah, Israel, Micah, Michael, Saul, and David" (Livingston, op cit).&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;D. Creation Account. &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; creation accounts show the origin of the creation idea was not provincialistic, i.e. why their given nation is supreme, why one should serve their nation, rather it was distinctly theological &amp; non-political. The &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; creation account demonstrates the existence of elements of the Genesis creation narrative in uncorrupted (via mythology) form prior to the development of the mythological versions that Genesis was said by some to have borrowed from. This also calls severely into question the assumption, as held by some critical scholars, that the Genesis creation account did not originate until after the time of Solomon. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;E. Biblical Place Names at &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;. Many place names found in the Bible were discovered at &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, including Hazor, &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Lachish&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Megiddo&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Jerusalem&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gaza&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;, Nahur (cf. Gen &lt;st1:time hour="11" minute="24"&gt;11:24&lt;/st1:time&gt;-26/ “Nahor”), and controversially, &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="font-weight: bold;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;II. &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; &lt;/p&gt;        &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;A. &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; in Economic Trade Texts?! These cities and their destruction cannot be easily written off as mere literary myth as they once were.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Giovanni Pettinato, initially the head epigrapher who translated the ancient &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; archives, maintained that the names of &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah (&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;i&gt;si-da-mu&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;ì-ma-ar&lt;/i&gt;) appear on several Eblahite tablets, not in mythic tales, but in several economic texts which preserve records of trades which had been made between &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Ebla&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah &lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;(cf. Shanks, Herschel, "BAR Interviews Giovanni Pettinato". &lt;/span&gt;Biblical Archaeology Review&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt; (Nov/Dec 1981)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;st1:street&gt;&lt;st1:address&gt;B. Sodom/Gomorrah/Ebla Trade Route&lt;/st1:address&gt;&lt;/st1:street&gt; Specified. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The specific trade route by which goods were moved from Ebla to Sodom and Gomorrah and back was also specified in the Ebla archives; this route, which was called the King's Highway (first map and first photo below) is very well known to archaeologists. A modern road follows the same route taken by the King’s Highway through Wadi Wala. As the King’s Highway then lead to the southern tip of the &lt;st1:place&gt;Dead Sea&lt;/st1:place&gt;, this provides strong confirmation of the traditional site of &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; along the southern shore of the &lt;st1:place&gt;Dead Sea&lt;/st1:place&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/sirhemlock/GenSodomKingsHighway.png" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fig. 2:&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Known Ancient Near Eastern Trade Routes&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/sirhemlock/GenSodomKingsHighway.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fig. 3: The King's Highway&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;C. &lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;st1:placetype&gt;Mount&lt;/st1:placetype&gt; &lt;st1:placename&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:placename&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; (photo below). Jebel Usdum ("Mount of Sodom"), a mountain made of salt containing caves with spectacular soaring ceilings and located on the west side of the &lt;st1:place&gt;Dead Sea&lt;/st1:place&gt; at the southern end. The ancient place name Usdum also is thought by philologists to preserve the name of &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/sirhemlock/GenSodom3.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fig. 4&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jebel Usdum ("Mount of &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;")&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The archaeologist and popular author who took the photo below is standing in the midst of Sodomite ash deposits, which are typically about seven-feet deep.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Splatter formations where molten bituminous material (asphalt-like, i.e. “brimstone”) once dropped from the Sodomite sky are present in this richly fertile area where cities once flourished. The shore of the Sea is peppered with huge pillars of salt. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/sirhemlock/GenSodom1.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b&gt;  &lt;/b&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fig. 5&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Sodomite Ash: Seven Feet Deep!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/sirhemlock/GenSodom4.png" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fig. 6&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Pillars of Salt (&lt;st1:place&gt;Dead Sea&lt;/st1:place&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/sirhemlock/GenSodom2.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fig. 7&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Pillars of Salt (&lt;st1:place&gt;Dead Sea&lt;/st1:place&gt;)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The Bible speaks of “five cities of the plain” of which &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; were two. Excavations at Bab edh-Dhra' about 5 miles from the Dead Sea SE of el-Lisan, indicate a steady stream of religious pilgrimages to the area from about 2300 B.C. to 1900 B.C. which ceased very abruptly. "The cessation of visits at that time implies the destruction of the cities of the plain, about 1900 B. C., and also furnishes support for the presence of Abram in Canaan at the end of the twentieth century B.C. God's destruction of Sodom most probably was produced by the combustion of petroleum gases emanating from the bituminous deposits in the area. This doubtlessly was accompanied by seismic disturbances, which caused the plain to sink some 6.1 m. (20 ft.) under the surface of the &lt;st1:place&gt;Dead  Sea&lt;/st1:place&gt;. In1953 the first oil well of the State of Israel went into production just north of Jebel Usdum, indicating significant petroleum deposits in the region. The heavy pall of smoke which Abram saw (Gen &lt;st1:time hour="19" minute="28"&gt;19:28&lt;/st1:time&gt;) would characterize ignited petroleum products."&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Blaiklock &amp; Harrison, Eds., &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;New International Dictionary of Biblical Archaeology.&lt;/span&gt; pp 418f. Considering the location of Sodom in time and space via the Ebla archives, it is quite likely the actual site of the city is, as many scholars believe, submerged under the waters of the Dead Sea south of the el-Lisan peninsula in what was originally "the Valley of Siddim, that is the Salt Sea" (Gen 14:3). &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p52/sirhemlock/GenSodom5CitiesofPlain.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Fig. 8&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Religious Pilgrimages Ceased Suddenly in Abraham's day.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;i&gt;  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"The Lord rained upon &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Sodom&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Gomorrah&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; and he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.“&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/37449367-6727295722287196688?l=kata-christon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kata-christon.blogspot.com/feeds/6727295722287196688/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=37449367&amp;postID=6727295722287196688' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/37449367/posts/default/6727295722287196688'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/37449367/posts/default/6727295722287196688'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kata-christon.blogspot.com/2007/01/travel-photos-from-sodom.html' title='Travel Photos from Sodom'/><author><name>-sirhemlock@yahoo.com</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06038411639478940545</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_3L8UhU5sG2g/R24FJUzdA1I/AAAAAAAAAAU/kWCMvPRff3M/S220/sirhem.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37449367.post-116314488922231168</id><published>2006-11-09T23:12:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-11-10T02:56:42.136-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Psalm 22:16 5/6HevPs: "They Pierced My Hands and Feet" (Dr. Peter W. Flint's Position)</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The Dead Sea Scrolls Bible: The Oldest Known Bible Translated for the First Time into English&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;, edited by Martin G. Abegg, Peter W. Flint and Eugene Charles Ulrich contains a footnote on the Psalm 22 fragment from the Dead Sea, which affirms that unlike the later Masoretic text, the Dead Sea fragment of Ps 22:16 cannot be taken as "like a lion my hands and feet" (whatever that may mean) but can only mean "they pierced my hands and my feet." If this is correct, since the &lt;st1:place&gt;Dead Sea&lt;/st1:place&gt; fragment is almost 1000 years older than the oldest extant witness of the Masoretic text, the case that that “they pierced” is not the original reading has essentially collapsed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;1. Peter Flint's Position on 5/6HevPs&lt;/b&gt; (cf. Flint, Peter W., &lt;i&gt;Discoveries in the Judean Desert&lt;/i&gt;, Vol 38 (Oxford) and brief bibliography below).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;A. The Dead Sea Scolls Text (1st century AD; 5/6HevPs), according to &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Flint&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; and all authorities who have handled the physical scroll, has: &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/sirhemlock/sirhemlock1/image002.gif" alt="image002.gif" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;KARU&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;: &lt;/span&gt;"they have pierced"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; (&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;KAR&lt;/span&gt; = "pierced"; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;U&lt;/span&gt; = "they").&lt;br /&gt;Note it is the leftmost letter (vav) which results in the reading &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;KARU&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;B. The Masoretic text (10th century AD) reads (according to most, but not all textual witnesses): &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/sirhemlock/sirhemlock1/image004.gif" alt="image004.gif" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;KARI&lt;/span&gt;:  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;"like a lion" (&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;K&lt;/span&gt; = "like"; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;ARI&lt;/span&gt; = "lion").&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note it is leftmost letter (yod), which gives us the reading &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;KARI&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Notice that the main issue at hand concerning the Dead Sea fragment revolves around the identity of the last letter in the Hebrew word. Is it the "long" letter (Vav) or the "short" letter (Yod)? Does one not sometimes appear like the other? Can we tell at all? If so how so? Notice also that the critical letter in question is the leftmost one in the Hebrew word (Hebrew is read “backwards”).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;2. 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are two enhanced images of the word in question in the 5/6HevPs fragment, line 12 of column 10. The original of 5/6HevPs is published is in DJD 38. Figure A shows the word identified as &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;KARU&lt;/span&gt;; Figure B shows &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;KARU&lt;/span&gt; together with the word just after it, the first letter of which is a yod! Which Hebrew word in blue above do you think looks most like Figure A? Unfortunately this in and of itself is not decisive. We must keep in mind that the typographical Hebrew above has a smaller yod than was true of the Herodian Hebrew used in 5/6HevPs. We need to look at specifics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3. Peter W. Flint’s Arguments. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;A. The two occurrences of yod in figure B (fifth and seventh letters from the right) are half the size or less compared to the critical letter, the fourth letter from the right in both figures A and B. All authorities identify the fifth and seventh letters from the right in figure B as yods. Is the critical fourth letter also the shorter yod, or is it the longer vav?&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p&gt;If the critical letter is a yod rather than a vav, as some naysayers claim, it at least seems odd that the critical letter is twice the size of the yod right next to it. This requires some kind of explanation. Although all instances of the generally smaller yod are not always half the size of the larger vav, &lt;i style=""&gt;when a specific yod and a specific vav are right next to one another adjacently, and one IS actually half the size of the other, their identity is quite clear&lt;/i&gt;, according to Peter Flint, universally recognized as one of the leading authorities in the world on Herodian Hebrew: “vav and yod are usually distinguished, with vav generally longer than yod.” If &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Flint&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; is correct here, this difference is decisive for the identity of the critical letter, as &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Flint&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; maintains with a high degree of certainty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;B. The fourth letter from the right is roughly the same size as the consonant before it (resh/ “R”). If it were a yod, it would probably &lt;i&gt;in this vicinity&lt;/i&gt; be roughly half the size of the resh at the longest, not because yods are of invariably roughly half the size of consonants (as is often so), but because the other immediately adjacent yods clearly are about half the size of the consonants they are next to (daleth and heth).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C. If Flint is correct, we have &lt;b&gt;KARU&lt;/b&gt;: "They have pierced" in a text dating almost 1000 years earlier than the earliest extant manuscript of the Masoretic text.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peter Flint should not be taken lightly; he is one of the world's leading experts in the DSS Psalm fragment, and edited DJD 38 which contains its image.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, it should be stressed that not only does &lt;st1:city&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;Flint&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; identify the word as כארו, but he does so with a very high confidence level: "it is clearly a verb, not a noun and means they have bored or they have dug or they have pierced." (&lt;i&gt;The Meaning of the Dead Sea Scrolls&lt;/i&gt;, VanderKam, James &amp; Flint, Peter, pg. 124; cf. also Flint, Peter W., &lt;i&gt;The Dead Sea Psalm Scrolls and the Book of Psalms&lt;/i&gt;).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Peter W. Flint: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;st1:address&gt;&lt;st1:street&gt;&lt;b&gt;A Brief Bibliography&lt;/b&gt;   Dr. Peter W.&lt;/st1:street&gt; &lt;st1:city&gt;Flint&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:address&gt; edited over 25 Dead Sea Scrolls for three volumes in the internationally acclaimed &lt;i&gt;Discoveries in the Judaean Desert&lt;/i&gt; (Oxford University Press), edited by Emanuel Tov, the principle official edition of the scrolls, including the &lt;i&gt;DJD&lt;/i&gt; fragment posted above. Flint’s work &lt;i&gt;The Meaning of the Dead Sea Scrolls&lt;/i&gt; (HarperCollins, 2003), co-authored with James VanderKam, won the award for Best Book Relating to the Hebrew Bible for 2003 from the Biblical Archaeology Society in Washington, DC. This work is used in many university courses on the Dead Sea Scrolls as a textbook. He served as Editor of the major two-volume collection &lt;i style=""&gt;The Dead Sea Scrolls After Fifty Years: A Comprehensive Assessment&lt;/i&gt; (E. J. Brill, 1998-1999). Dr. Flint serves as a General Editor of one series on the Old Testament: &lt;i style=""&gt;The Formation and Interpretation of Old Testament Literature&lt;/i&gt; (E. J. Brill), as well as two series on the Dead Sea Scrolls: &lt;i style=""&gt;Studies in the &lt;/i&gt;&lt;st1:place&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;Dead Sea&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt; Scrolls and Related Literature&lt;/i&gt;; and the &lt;i style=""&gt;Eerdmans Commentaries on the Dead Sea Scrolls&lt;/i&gt;. He authored &lt;i style=""&gt;The Dead Sea Psalms Scrolls and the Book of Psalms&lt;/i&gt; (E. J. Brill, 1997), &lt;i style=""&gt;The Bible at Qumran: Text, Shape, and Interpretation, &lt;/i&gt;coauthored the&lt;i style=""&gt; Dead Sea Scrolls Bible&lt;/i&gt; (San Francisco, CA: Harper, 1999), and was coeditor, with Craig A. Evans, of &lt;i style=""&gt;Eschatology, Messianism, and the Dead Sea Scrolls&lt;/i&gt; (Eerdmans, 2001), co-authored the (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1997). -sirhemlock@yahoo.com&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/37449367-116314488922231168?l=kata-christon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://kata-christon.blogspot.com/feeds/116314488922231168/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=37449367&amp;postID=116314488922231168' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/37449367/posts/default/116314488922231168'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/37449367/posts/default/116314488922231168'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://kata-christon.blogspot.com/2006/11/psalm-2216-56hevps-they-pierced-my.html' title='Psalm 22:16 5/6HevPs: &quot;They Pierced My Hands and Feet&quot; (Dr. Peter W. 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